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Márcio Basgalupp <[log in to unmask]>
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ECJ Evolutionary Computation Toolkit <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:46:23 -0200
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Dear Sean,

I just got it. Thank you very much.

Best,
Márcio

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Prof. Dr. Márcio Porto Basgalupp
Instituto de Ciência e Tecnologia (ICT)
Universidade Federal de São Paulo (UNIFESP)
Tel: +55 12 3309-9500 (r: 9762)

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Márcio Basgalupp <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Dear Sean,
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
> Actually, I'm not using matrix operators. I tried to omit some details in
> order to simplify the question but it think I made a bad choice :-). I'm
> actually combining some bi-dimensional arrays and a multiplication for me
> would be like that: C = A * B, where C[i] = A[i] * B[i] for all i (it is
> sure that all arrays have the same dimension).
>
> The problem is that I have to ensure that the final result (my individual)
> must be a bi-dimensional array. My application is to combine different
> bi-dimensional arrays. Instead of using A or B, I could use something like:
> 2*A + 3*B + A*B. But an individual like 2*3 is not feasible, since the
> final result is a number (6) and not an array. Then I think that that
> constraint in ECJ is perfect. I just need to ensure the return type of the
> individual is a double[][] instead of a 'nil' or 'boolean', like in the
> examples I found at Section 5.2.11 in ECJ's manual.
>
> Best,
> Márcio
>
>
>
> --------
> Prof. Dr. Márcio Porto Basgalupp
> Instituto de Ciência e Tecnologia (ICT)
> Universidade Federal de São Paulo (UNIFESP)
> Tel: +55 12 3309-9500 (r: 9762)
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Sean Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> The basic issue is that matrix multiplication involves several varying
>> constraints.  Basically you're saying that if the left child produces an
>> AxB matrix and the right child produces a CxD matrix, and the parent
>> produces an ExF matrix, then it must be the case that B=C, E=A, and F=D.
>> Notice it doesn't say that A, B, C, D, E, or F must be any *specific*
>> values, just that there are functional constraints on them.  Essentially
>> you have a countably infinite number of types.  Furthermore, you don't
>> specify how these constraints will be enforced -- by forcing children to
>> match a given parent or the other way around?  By forcing the right child
>> to match the left child, or the other way around?
>>
>> ECJ's typing is meant for situations where parents and children may have
>> a small and finite set of types, children are forced to be constrained by
>> their parents, and there are no constraints between children.  You have a
>> much uglier situation which requires a form of polymorphic typing.
>>
>> Polymorphic typing systems are nontrivial to implement, and nearly
>> impossible to implement without putting strong restrictions on the tree
>> builders and breeding operators available.  I decided it was not worth the
>> downsides to implement as standard in ECJ's GP facility.   I believe that
>> Maarten Keijzer did polymorphic typing for EO, you might look into that.
>> Tina Yu did her thesis on polymorphic typing but I don't know what system
>> she used.  Otherwise you're probably stuck with GE [which ECJ can do, along
>> with certain other systems].
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Márcio Basgalupp <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I'm using GP for combining 'matrix objects' (for example, matrix A, B
>> and C). I also have a node representing a number (extending ERC class).
>> Then, I would like to evolve individuals such as 'A*B', '2*A + B', 'C*A +
>> 2*B', etc, i.e., my 'complete individual' must return a matrix. I can not,
>> for example, have an individual like '2 + 2' or '3 * 2', because it would
>> return a number (not a matrix). If I use a GE (Grammatical Evolution) I can
>> easily avoid it by using the grammar. How can I avoid it by using GP in
>> ECJ? Is there any way to ensure that I will always have at least one matrix
>> as a terminal node?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Márcio
>> >
>> > --------
>> > Prof. Dr. Márcio Porto Basgalupp
>> > Instituto de Ciência e Tecnologia (ICT)
>> > Universidade Federal de São Paulo (UNIFESP)
>> > Tel: +55 12 3309-9500 (r: 9762)
>>
>
>


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