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Laszlo Gulyas <[log in to unmask]>
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MASON Multiagent Simulation Toolkit <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:41:52 +0100
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Dear Stever,

Let me pick up on this 'cold thread':

What software are you using to generate/interface your DoE techniques to

Thanks and all the best,

-- Laszlo
dr. Gulyás László        | Laszlo Gulyas, PhD
kutatási igazgató        | dir. of research
AITIA International Zrt. | AITIA International Inc.

> Hi Glen, et al.,
> Another idea is to use JADE, or some other similar MAS (multi-agent
> system). There is no simulation infrastructure since it was built as
> middleware for constructing MAS's. However, the basics are there for
> having agents on different machines, migration of agents,
> communication between agents, etc.. It would be interesting if the
> ABM community got together with the MAS community to share ideas, if
> they haven't done so already. I haven't seen much. These agents are
> typically more heavyweight than agents used in ABM/IBM's, e.g.,
> having an expert system as a decision making component, but if you're
> headed that route, it might be an avenue to look into.
> I'd be curious if someone has attempted this. It's been on my back
> burner for a while, just not enough critical mass to work on it
> myself.. ;-(
> BTW, for #2, we've been using Condor () and some software that
> interfaces with design of experiment techniques to generate the
> experiments, using XML as an input format for the ABM. The software
> takes the experimental design via csv and, makes changes to the XML,
> and then creates the jobs for Condor. As long as your input is in XML
> and you have a command line executable, it works for pretty much any
> ABM. We have it running for a MASON developed sim, Netlogo sims, and
> some other military specific sims.
> steve
> On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Glen E. P. Ropella wrote:
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>> Maciej M. Latek on 12/06/2007 05:48 PM:
>>> That is very interesting issue you raise. I understand you are
>>> interested in
>>> fine-grained distributed memory applications: I have experimented
>>> recently
>>> with Proactive.  While learning curve might be steep (which is not
>>> helped by
>>> [...]
>>> What scale of simulation are we talking about that a decent 8 core
>>> desktop
>>> with plenty of RAM is not enough?
>> Thanks for the lead to Proactive.  I'll take a look at it.
>> Most of my work these days is in biological modeling, which means
>> ~100s
>> of thousands of relatively homogenous agents per simulation.  Coarse
>> grained simulation (the kind manageable by "shell scripts and rsh",
>> though I prefer MPI) has worked for me so far.  But, I'm about to
>> embark
>> on a project that might require a much more fine granularity, or more
>> accurately multi-grain hierarchical agents.  I'm just looking for an
>> evolutionary path to bridge from the current grain to the finer grain.
>> - --
>> glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846,
>> Power never takes a back step - only in the face of more power. --
>> Malcolm X
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